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I totally agree with you... 

Livermore      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 18:10) Posted: Hi IPunter, Read carefully what I wrote in my earlier post "I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtrend" Livermore      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 20:13) Posted: Pretty obvious from March low till now it has been on a uptrend. I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtren

 

Hi IPunter,

Read carefully what I wrote in my earlier post "I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtrend"

Livermore      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 20:13) Posted: Pretty obvious from March low till now it has been on a uptrend. I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtrend iPunter      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 09:57) Posted: If I buy and sell within months (or even a year), I am also a trader...  And there's a difference between protecting one's capital and frequent trading... They are not the same thing... and holding in a downtrend is not investing... hehehe...

 

I totally agree with what you said, because that is the truth...

Only if one has bought at a low price (eg. at or near floor level), will one has nothing to lose by holding and holding on.

But if one has bought when the market is hot, one will invariably suffer the consequences of the trends if one holds for long enough...

 

Buy-and-hold is one good way to allow compounding to work for the investor for the long term without incurring transaction costs through excessive trading. However, the catch is what stocks to hold and at what price to hold? If the investor has invested in a company that does not have predictable consistent long term economics in its business, it is not worth holding the stocks of such company long term. Also, if the investor has bought any stock at too steep valuation higher than their intrinsic worth such that no matter given how long, the company cannot increase its intrinsic worth in its business to match the stock price an investor paid for its stocks, then it does not make sense to hold such stocks for long term even if the company is a good one. The problem is that the investor has already paid a really too steep a price for the stocks, so not worth holding the stocks for long term already. 

<Buy-and-hold really works long term to provide time for compounding effect to build up an investor's capital. However, an investor should only hold stocks of only good companies bought at only low prices lower than their intrinsic worth.> <If violating the above two conditions, then an investor may not want to consider holding any stocks since there is no longer valid reasons for doing so since the odds are against him if violating these two conditions.>

 

I hope you have not missed my point...

My point is this:-

Holding stocks for 'long-term' is the most dangerous (ie. extremely risky) thing to do... 

 

You may have missed my point

iPunter      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 20:27) Posted: Without being intrusive, may I suggest you also held on to your holdings from the market peak in 2007 without selling? There's no need to for an answer...  Livermore      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 20:13) Posted: Pretty obvious from March low till now it has been on a uptrend. I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtren

 

Without being intrusive, may I suggest you also held on to your holdings from the market peak in 2007 without selling?

There's no need to for an answer... 

Livermore      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 20:13) Posted: Pretty obvious from March low till now it has been on a uptrend. I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtrend iPunter      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 09:57) Posted: If I buy and sell within months (or even a year), I am also a trader...  And there's a difference between protecting one's capital and frequent trading... They are not the same thing... and holding in a downtrend is not investing... hehehe...

 

Pretty obvious from March low till now it has been on a uptrend. I never meant holding on to a stock in a downtrend

iPunter      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 09:57) Posted: If I buy and sell within months (or even a year), I am also a trader...  And there's a difference between protecting one's capital and frequent trading... They are not the same thing... and holding in a downtrend is not investing... hehehe... Livermore      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 22:34) Posted: Oops type wronglyIt should be "In fact I just told a friend he is going to make less profit by trading too much.".

 

bought another 5 lots at 1.99.

 

Throwing at the wrong timing islike  throwing away good money.  Punting in and out is certainly good for your brokers and broking firms.  Understanding  the stock and its fundamentals, and armed with holding power is one sure way of raking in good profit.  ESTA is one such share you can count on.

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 13:30) Posted: It is better to throw first when you have the guts that the counter is lifeless.  Lose a bit is better because with the capital almost intact, you can go for some quick gains to cover the small losses.  In fact, I found this way better through experience.  Holding on to "wooden head" shares tend to cause you to lose 3 things, your patience, your money in terms of interests, and your opportunity for making use of the cash to make money.  Am sure iPunter will tell you more things you might lose holding to these non-action shares.

 

It is better to throw first when you have the guts that the counter is lifeless.  Lose a bit is better because with the capital almost intact, you can go for some quick gains to cover the small losses.  In fact, I found this way better through experience.  Holding on to "wooden head" shares tend to cause you to lose 3 things, your patience, your money in terms of interests, and your opportunity for making use of the cash to make money.  Am sure iPunter will tell you more things you might lose holding to these non-action shares.

 

If I buy and sell within months (or even a year), I am also a trader... 

And there's a difference between protecting one's capital and frequent trading...

They are not the same thing...

and holding in a downtrend is not investing... hehehe...

Livermore      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 22:34) Posted: Oops type wronglyIt should be "In fact I just told a friend he is going to make less profit by trading too much.".   Livermore      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 22:31) Posted: Holding does not always mean you are going to lose. In fact I just told a friend he is not going to make less profit by trading too much. There is nothing wrong buying and selling but there is a balance how to do i

 

Oops type wronglyIt should be "In fact I just told a friend he is going to make less profit by trading too much.".  

Livermore      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 22:31) Posted: Holding does not always mean you are going to lose. In fact I just told a friend he is not going to make less profit by trading too much. There is nothing wrong buying and selling but there is a balance how to do it iPunter      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 15:44) Posted: Very good action... Although many say getting in and out is bad, it is in fact an insurance against unforseen big falls... Holding is very dangerous (very risky) in uncertain markets... rather, in all markets, because there's no certainty...

 

Holding does not always mean you are going to lose. In fact I just told a friend he is not going to make less profit by trading too much. There is nothing wrong buying and selling but there is a balance how to do it

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Oct-2009 15:44) Posted: Very good action... Although many say getting in and out is bad, it is in fact an insurance against unforseen big falls... Holding is very dangerous (very risky) in uncertain markets... rather, in all markets, because there's no certainty...  keepnosecrets      ( Date: 01-Oct-2009 15:55) Posted: This counter lousy for me.  Bought at 2.00 and sold at 2.00 lost some commission of about 60 bucks.  Luckily sense the counter won't move so contraed before it broke down.  Won't touch on this again yet

 

Ezra had filled the gap at $1.75 on   05/10 , n touching the low of $1.68 , but surged pass the 13EMA in the next two trading days .This is the key reversal of its trend , n to resume the uptrend .

Bintang      ( Date: 28-Sep-2009 17:42) Posted: Hi aircraft , there is a very strong support at $1.75 which was also a gap waiting to be filled . aircraft      ( Date: 28-Sep-2009 09:48) Posted: Hi Bintang, does that mean the current price of 1.90 is supported ?

 

finally......see can break 2.1 tomorrow? TP 2.2ya

 

Very good action...

Although many say getting in and out is bad, it is in fact an insurance against unforseen big falls...

Holding is very dangerous (very risky) in uncertain markets... rather, in all markets, because there's no certainty... 

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 01-Oct-2009 15:55) Posted: This counter lousy for me.  Bought at 2.00 and sold at 2.00 lost some commission of about 60 bucks.  Luckily sense the counter won't move so contraed before it broke down.  Won't touch on this again yet. commando      ( Date: 28-Sep-2009 21:34) Posted: My god....should have sold off at $2!

 

EZRA is on the uptrend again ! For those who have faith in this stock - keep it up !

risktaker      ( Date: 01-Oct-2009 19:52) Posted: if you brought this counter at $2.00 before .... why you didnt average up ? when it is $0.70+ cents ? This counter is good with economy picking up. keepnosecrets      ( Date: 01-Oct-2009 15:55) Posted: This counter lousy for me.  Bought at 2.00 and sold at 2.00 lost some commission of about 60 bucks.  Luckily sense the counter won't move so contraed before it broke down.  Won't touch on this again yet

 

if you brought this counter at $2.00 before .... why you didnt average up ? when it is $0.70+ cents ? This counter is good with economy picking up.

keepnosecrets      ( Date: 01-Oct-2009 15:55) Posted: This counter lousy for me.  Bought at 2.00 and sold at 2.00 lost some commission of about 60 bucks.  Luckily sense the counter won't move so contraed before it broke down.  Won't touch on this again yet. commando      ( Date: 28-Sep-2009 21:34) Posted: My god....should have sold off at $2!

 

Few month ago, tis counter just issued some placement share??

Tek2009      ( Date: 30-Sep-2009 22:27) Posted: Ezra PROPOSED NEW SHARE ISSUE MANDATE, good or bad news? Anyone can enlighten?