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xing78
    26-Aug-2011 13:30  
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Hedging should be done for different counters in my opinion.

Example:

If you long Cosco and you feel that during uncertain times, market will be volatile (1 day up and 1 day down), then you can hedge your Cosco by shorting another counter of the same sector or different sector that you feel will perform worse than Cosco in the short to medium term.

When you use CFD to hedge, you should be aware that an interest fee (4 to 8% per annum) will be charge on open positions and also be aware that the margin requirements can be raised at anytime during the uncertain market condition.

The securities will also temporary stop offering short selling on the particular counter if it is already very oversold of certain cases.

 

HLJHLJ      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 13:14) Posted:



Could someone advise me if my intent method is ok?
(1) Use own cash to buy few lots of cosco and hold whether up or down.
(2) Use CFD to short few lots (maybe equal proporting as long)

If mkt up, then sell all short and average up with more cash into long side.
If mkt down, average down by shorting some more with CFD. But keep the long one as it is cash and can hold.

Is this hedging?

Appreciate your advice.

 
 
HLJHLJ
    26-Aug-2011 13:14  
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Could someone advise me if my intent method is ok?
(1) Use own cash to buy few lots of cosco and hold whether up or down.
(2) Use CFD to short few lots (maybe equal proporting as long)

If mkt up, then sell all short and average up with more cash into long side.
If mkt down, average down by shorting some more with CFD. But keep the long one as it is cash and can hold.

Is this hedging?

Appreciate your advice.
 
 
wishbone
    26-Aug-2011 13:03  
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The whole world is waiting for Ben Bernarke tonight. QE3 ?????

For me, I doubt it will have any major impact. Sit tight and enjoy the ride of this roller coaster.

Smiley


forgot2bme      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 12:39) Posted:

Took a short position too. Things doesn't look good for the global economy..

 

 
forgot2bme
    26-Aug-2011 12:39  
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Took a short position too. Things doesn't look good for the global economy..
 
 
alexchia01
    26-Aug-2011 12:09  
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Short CoscoCorp.

Stop-Loss at $1.055.

I've no T.P. for the floor is the limit.

 
 
 
Isolator
    26-Aug-2011 11:34  
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Cosco will lead giving way to break 96.5ct and rush down to 60ct.... it cannot hold..... I beleive some bad news  should be coming out soon..... cancellation contract?
 

 
Joe2020
    26-Aug-2011 10:34  
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China Cosco Has Wider-Than-Estimated $432 Million Loss on Shipping Slump

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Enlarge imageChina Cosco Plunges to 2.76 Billion Yuan-Loss

China Cosco Plunges to 2.76 Billion Yuan-Loss

China Cosco Plunges to 2.76 Billion Yuan-Loss

Kiyoshi Ota/Bloomberg

China Cosco’s container-shipping sales fell 3.4 percent in the first half, even as volumes increased 9.8 percent.

China Cosco’s container-shipping sales fell 3.4 percent in the first half, even as volumes increased 9.8 percent. Photographer: Kiyoshi Ota/Bloomberg



China Cosco Holdings Co., the shipping line that’s had at least three vessels seized in payment disputes, slumped to a larger-than-expected first-half loss because of plunging cargo rates and rising fuel costs.

The nation’s largest shipping line lost 2.76 billion yuan ($432 million), with both its container and commodity units being unprofitable, according to a Hong Kong stock exchange filing yesterday. The Tianjin, China-based company has tumbled 40 percent in three months, compared with a 14 percent decline for the Bloomberg Dry Ships Index.

“China Cosco is facing the biggest challenge since the global financial crisis,” said Huang Wenlong, a Hong Kong-based analyst with BOC International Holdings Ltd. “I am very pessimistic about the second half because the growth rate in shipping capacity is unprecedented.”

The state-controlled company’s first-half sales from moving commodities tumbled 27 percent, 10 times the pace of decline in volumes, while average container rates fell 14 percent as an expanding global fleet boosted competition. The two units also both had 27 percent increases in fuel costs, mainly because of higher prices.

Separately, the company said its board approved plans by an overseas unit to issue as much as $2 billion of dollar-denominated bonds for general use. As at the end of June, the shipping line had cash and cash equivalents of 43.8 billion yuan, down from 46.7 billion yuan six months earlier.

China Cosco’s shares rose 0.5 percent to HK$4.20 at 10:16 a.m. in Hong Kong. They fell 1.1 percent to 7.15 yuan inShanghai.
 
 
Isolator
    26-Aug-2011 10:32  
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When Cosco get to 60ct.... I may turn bullish...... The 2nd phrase of massive selling should be coming soon.....
 
 
Isolator
    26-Aug-2011 10:26  
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My charts already tell me it will be going down.... 80ct?
 
 
eurekaw
    26-Aug-2011 10:17  
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This is serious, if turns out as expected

Isolator      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 10:05) Posted:

Tonight Dow will be very red again base on charts.... unless HE can give a good solution tonight  (only 10% can bull).... But.... most likely it will drop 300pt or even 500 pt tonight after his remarks....  Gold will rebound again...

 

 
seanpent
    26-Aug-2011 10:09  
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thought the savvy ones are forward looking ?   LoL   )

Joe2020      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 10:06) Posted:

How you get to know our strategy? Are you one of us? BBs ? LoL

seanpent      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 10:04) Posted:



BBs shorted very very way before the news ..... time to close positions after news ..... 


 
 
Joe2020
    26-Aug-2011 10:06  
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How you get to know our strategy? Are you one of us? BBs ? LoL

seanpent      ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 10:04) Posted:



BBs shorted very very way before the news ..... time to close positions after news ..... 

 
 
Isolator
    26-Aug-2011 10:05  
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Tonight Dow will be very red again base on charts.... unless HE can give a good solution tonight  (only 10% can bull).... But.... most likely it will drop 300pt or even 500 pt tonight after his remarks....  Gold will rebound again...
 
 
seanpent
    26-Aug-2011 10:04  
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BBs shorted very very way before the news ..... time to close positions after news ..... 
 
 
seanpent
    26-Aug-2011 09:58  
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knee jerked .....

very condusive to squeeze the shorts now ..... 
 

 
Isolator
    26-Aug-2011 09:49  
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What a pity Dow did not close dropping 300pt... Or else can see 95ct immediately...  lol
 
 
pharoah88
    26-Aug-2011 09:39  
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COSCO

wAs  bOrn

At

S$0.250

Only
 
 
eurekaw
    26-Aug-2011 09:25  
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oh no china cosco 1H swing to a net loss...
 
 
Isolator
    25-Aug-2011 23:47  
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Tomorrow Cosco open gap starting 95ct?
 
 
Isolator
    25-Aug-2011 16:35  
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Cheap can get cheaper and even much more cheaper.... Enjoy....
 
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