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do u think it will break above 1.09 tomoro ? or u think once hit 1.07-1.08 and will fall back towards $1 again?

susan66      ( Date: 14-Nov-2011 14:54) Posted: Wow, timing so right, just mention & cheong now.

 

Wow, timing so right, just mention & cheong now.

 

Waking up soon, but still quite stubborn.

 

As  I mentioned before, this one got BB support (" ,)

 

Shortists probably don know who they are dealing with.

hp3000      ( Date: 11-Nov-2011 21:45) Posted: Yanlord: Peter Lim Eng Hock Emerged Substantial Shareholder With 5.24% Stake. 10 Nov 2011 11:54 Peter Lim Eng Hock increased his stake in Yanlord via Open Market Purchase of 5,476,000 shares at S$0.9918 per share on 04/11/2011. He currently holds 5.24% of Yanlord or 102,065,000 shares. Peter Lim Eng Hock is a Singapore billionaire. In July 2011, Forbes magazine rated eighth amongst Singapore's 40 richest people with an estimated net worth of $1.8 billion...

 

I think If it is able to breakout $1.09 and above then it may be a good sign... Otherwise it is just trading at consolidation mode...

orangejuice2      ( Date: 12-Nov-2011 17:51) Posted: so from yr TA view is it if yanlord can close at $1.05 on monday,   it will signal very bullish for yanlord's share price in the immediate short-term? or can some other TA guy also comment on my this above query? TradeChancellor      ( Date: 10-Nov-2011 22:31) Posted: chartnexus is good for free TA tool, quite user friendly and many tools... only thing i feel can be better is that the timeframe should be more than 2 years... btw yanlord seem to be forming a golden cross (20day and 100day)... will only cross if there is increase to $1.05 and hovers around there

 

Knowing charting and TA (these two are different things)

    are essential for any stock market player. It is more like

            knowing the terrain in war terms. But no matter how

                    much one knows about the terrain, there's much

                          more to be known, and much is not known...  

cloud11      ( Date: 12-Nov-2011 10:35) Posted: Does knowing TA helps in stock trading or  stock trading is more like betting?

 

so from yr TA view is it if yanlord can close at $1.05 on monday,   it will signal very bullish for yanlord's share price in the immediate short-term?

or can some other TA guy also comment on my this above query?

TradeChancellor      ( Date: 10-Nov-2011 22:31) Posted: chartnexus is good for free TA tool, quite user friendly and many tools... only thing i feel can be better is that the timeframe should be more than 2 years... btw yanlord seem to be forming a golden cross (20day and 100day)... will only cross if there is increase to $1.05 and hovers around there

 

It's a little bit of both.

cloud11      ( Date: 12-Nov-2011 10:35) Posted: Does knowing TA helps in stock trading or  stock trading is more like betting?

 

Does knowing TA helps in stock trading or  stock trading is more like betting?

 

Yanlord: Peter Lim Eng Hock Emerged Substantial Shareholder With 5.24% Stake.

 

China Property Shares Seen Biggest Gainers Even as Shorts Reach 2008 High

Analysts’ forecasts show real-estate stocks will rally more than any other industry in China during the next year, even as wagers on declines climb to the highest level since at least 2008.

Developers in the MSCI China Index will surge 46 percent on average by November 2012, the most among 21 groups in the equity gauge, based on analysts’ estimates compiled by Bloomberg. At the same time, bearish bets on property companies have doubled to 12 percent of shares available for trading this year, according to Data Explorers, a London-based research firm.

Bulls say speculation about the bursting of an asset bubble in China’s property market is overblown and the shares are cheap after the average price-earnings ratio for the group fell 44 percent from an April peak to 5.77. Bears say real-estate stocks will extend this year’s slump after housing transactions in October fell for the first time in three months and government officials pledged to maintain real-estate curbs.

“The shorts are saying that this is U.S. subprime all over again,” said John Ventre, a London-based fund manager at Skandia Investment Group, which oversees about $22 billion, in a telephone interview on Nov. 3. “My take on that, or the bull case, is that it’s actually not that severe. When you look at it in totality, it’s probably all OK. The bear case has been priced in pretty significantly in the last two or three months.”

New loans in China since September 2008 totaled $3.7 trillion, while property prices have climbed about 60 percent since the end of 2006, according to the International Monetary Fund and government data. China ordered state-owned banks to increase lending and urged local governments to boost spending on infrastructure and housing to maintain growth during the 2008 financial crisis.

‘Severe’ Outlook
Access to credit has tightened this year after China increased down-payment requirements and mortgage rates on some homes and imposed housing-purchase restrictions in about 40 cities. The credit outlook for Chinese developers will be “increasingly severe” as a result, Standard & Poor’s said in a report on Sept. 27.

Real-estate companies are among the cheapest stocks in the MSCI China (MXCN) amid concern government curbs on the housing market will spur more bad loans and cut property demand. The value of homes sold last month dropped 25 percent to 372.3 billion yuan ($58.7 billion) from September, according to data released Nov. 9 from the statistics bureau.

Bankruptcy Priced In
China’s economy may expand 8.5 percent next year, the slowest pace in a decade, said Li Daokui, a central bank adviser at a Nov. 4 conference in Beijing. That’s still more than three times faster than the 2.7 percent estimate for global growth next year, based on economists’ forecasts tracked by Bloomberg.

Valuations for Chinese property shares now account for a high probability that companies in the industry will go bankrupt, according to Frank Chen, a real-estate analyst for BNP Paribas SA. He says the chance of that is “remote” and has “buy” recommendations on 9 of the 10 stocks he covers, including Agile Property Holdings Ltd. (3383)

“Demand is still very strong,” said Chen in a Nov. 4 interview from Hong Kong. “A loosening of monetary policies could provide the much needed catalyst for property stocks to rally.”

China’s inflation in October slowed by the most in almost three years, giving officials more room to support growth. Consumer prices rose 5.5 percent last month from a year earlier, the statistics bureau said on its website on Nov. 9, matching the median economist forecast compiled by Bloomberg.

Heavily Shorted
Share-price forecasts from analysts show Agile, which develops hotels and apartment complexes, will rally 87 percent in the next 12 months, the most among stocks in the MSCI China, data compiled by Bloomberg show. The Zhongshan City, China-based company said on Nov. 4 that contracted sales from January to Oct. 7 rose 17 percent from last year. The stock is down 45 percent this year.

Real-estate companies are among the most heavily shorted in the MSCI China. More than 20 percent of the shares available for trading for Shimao Property Holdings Ltd. (813) and Evergrande Real Estate Group Ltd. (3333) have been borrowed and sold by investors who hope to repurchase the securities at a lower price and pocket the difference, according to Data Explorers.

“I don’t want to be too aggressive in this industry,” said Terrace Chum, Hong Kong-based managing director of greater China equities for Manulife Asset Management, which oversees $199 billion, in a Nov. 3 phone interview. “The government is still kind of putting on the brakes.”

Evergrande Accounting
Shimao Property has fallen 41 percent this year even after saying on Oct. 11 that contracted sales for the nine months ended September rose 25 percent from a year earlier. The Shanghai-based company has 19 “buy” recommendations from analysts, 8 “holds” and 2 “sells,” according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Evergrande, China’s second-biggest developer by sales, has fallen 46 percent since a July peak. The Guangzhou-based company filed inaccurate financial statements in 2009, China’s ministry of finance said on Oct. 12. Evergrande said at a press conference the same day that the irregularities have been rectified in the 2010 financial report.

“Some property developers have the problem of reporting inaccurate revenue figures, overstating costs and delaying or underpaying taxes,” according to the ministry’s statement.

Premier Wen Jiabao said last month that the government will “firmly” maintain its control over the property market even as it seeks to “fine tune” other economic policies. Home prices in China will fall as much as 30 percent in the next year, according to a Nov. 8 Barclays Plc report.

“If you speak to the management, they will tell you that everything is fine,” said Tim Gibson, head of Asia-Pacific property research at Henderson Global Investors, which oversees about $104 billion, in a Nov. 2 interview from Singapore. “On the ground, what we’re seeing is things are not fine. After Europe, the Chinese residential market is the biggest concern for fund managers.”

 

Best at 70c...
    But last week when  I monitored, I saw support around 96c
          However in these volatile times, the best is wait lor....

Blastoff      ( Date: 10-Nov-2011 08:37) Posted: Which price do you think is worth accumulating at? medivh      ( Date: 09-Nov-2011 23:24) Posted: You can try accumulate at lower prices.. tomorrow may be good time,

 

chartnexus is good for free TA tool, quite user friendly and many tools... only thing i feel can be better is that the timeframe should be more than 2 years... btw yanlord seem to be forming a golden cross (20day and 100day)... will only cross if there is increase to $1.05 and hovers around there

 

>> PART I   1. Date of notice to issuer * 09-11-2011     2. Name of Substantial Shareholder * Lim Eng Hock    3. Please tick one or more appropriate box(es): *   Notice of a New Substantial Shareholder's interest. [Please complete Part II and IV]     >> PART II   1. Date of change of Interest 04-11-2011     2. Name of Registered Holder UOB Kay Hian Pte Ltd     3. Circumstance(s) giving rise to the interest or change in interest Open Market Purchase     # Please specify details       4. Information relating to shares held in the name of the Registered Holder   No. of Shares held before the change 96,589,000   As a percentage of issued share capital 4.96 %   No. of Shares which are subject of this notice 5,476,000   As a percentage of issued share capital 0.28 %   Amount of consideration (excluding brokerage and stamp duties) per share paid or received 0.9918     No. of Shares held after the change 102,065,000   As a percentage of issued share capital 5.24 %

 

Thanks! bought yesterday, today sure down...hiaz...

Any TA course  to recommend, Chartnexus? thinks I should go for one first.

 

Sifu is right..


    Although in stocks, all is betting, it is also important to bet strategically.

                  Thus risk is minimised...

xing78      ( Date: 09-Nov-2011 16:42) Posted: Perhaps you may want to wait for re-tracement back to at least 96 cents before considering for Long.  Upside is limited at current price. That's my view only. I may be wrong. :p  cloud11      ( Date: 09-Nov-2011 16:37) Posted: still can long?

 

Which price do you think is worth accumulating at?

medivh      ( Date: 09-Nov-2011 23:24) Posted: You can try accumulate at lower prices.. tomorrow may be good time,

 

You can try accumulate at lower prices.. tomorrow may be good time,

 

Perhaps you may want to wait for re-tracement back to at least 96 cents before considering for Long. 

Upside is limited at current price.

That's my view only. I may be wrong.

:p 

cloud11      ( Date: 09-Nov-2011 16:37) Posted: still can long?