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Cruising with the ship ..Yangzijiang

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Joe2020
    30-Sep-2011 10:41  
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Why dont you buy the ship as well, at least if px drop you can take us for cruise

chtan5751      ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 10:15) Posted:

l just bought 100 lots @0.91, hope can make some profit... cheers.. 

jonasljk      ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 09:53) Posted:



Cut loss @0.915. Took a huge loss in my portfolio, worst investment in a single counter for the year. will keep at the sidelines for now. Will re-enter when i see an opportunity again.


 


 
 
chtan5751
    30-Sep-2011 10:15  
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l just bought 100 lots @0.91, hope can make some profit... cheers.. 

jonasljk      ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 09:53) Posted:



Cut loss @0.915. Took a huge loss in my portfolio, worst investment in a single counter for the year. will keep at the sidelines for now. Will re-enter when i see an opportunity again.


 

 
 
jonasljk
    30-Sep-2011 09:53  
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Cut loss @0.915. Took a huge loss in my portfolio, worst investment in a single counter for the year. will keep at the sidelines for now. Will re-enter when i see an opportunity again.


 
 

 
Joe2020
    30-Sep-2011 08:53  
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Be careful

JustinQuek      ( Date: 29-Sep-2011 23:49) Posted:

its going up tomorrow again.might burst upwards 

 
 
JustinQuek
    29-Sep-2011 23:49  
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its going up tomorrow again.might burst upwards 
 
 
teeth53
    29-Sep-2011 20:01  
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teeth53 thot: The launched of such ship by YZJ, is direct competitor of STXOSV, it did't help much is stablizing both stocks nor assist in YZJ today trading prices.

Yangzijiang CPF Op-0.940 Cls-0.930 -0.030 -3.1% Vol-32,092,000 741,000 0.925 0.930 292,000 Hi-0.950 Lo-0.930


STXOSV CPF Op-1.015 Cls-1.010 -0.030 -2.9% Vol-15,217,000 280,000 1.010 1.015 790,000 Hi-1.030 Lo-1.005


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERcIvKnYhuM& feature=related

Uploaded by on Dec 27, 2010

A 8500t multi purpose vessel with the Groot Cross-Bow®, in order to maintain speed in waves and reduce the consumed amount of fuel per ton cargo and thus the NOx and SOx emissions.

Groot Cross-Bow® is an innovative new design by Groot Ship Design (http://www.grootshipdesign.nl) from the Netherlands.

Naval architects and construction engineers at Groot Ship Design can deliver services from conceptual design, basic engineering to detailed engineering and delivery documentation.

Groot Ship design has experience with multi purpose vessels, container vessels, tankers, RORO vessels, yachts and special designs.

 

 
domlim84
    29-Sep-2011 17:32  
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29 lots... about 1.8k paper loss
 
 
Sgshares
    29-Sep-2011 16:16  
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did u buy a lot ?

domlim84      ( Date: 29-Sep-2011 10:44) Posted:



hi teeth53 

thanks for your analysis... very helpful

i got in @ 99c.... painfully holding... might decide to cut soon.

 

 
 
domlim84
    29-Sep-2011 10:44  
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hi teeth53 

thanks for your analysis... very helpful

i got in @ 99c.... painfully holding... might decide to cut soon.

 
 
 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2011 22:11  
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Hi domlim84,

Sori for late reply. thk Qs. Hope it help U in making a sound / better  judgement.  On sharing my  thot...

One mths..?. Technical rebound within trading range. Signal bearish month to month.  Trading  is not  without volatile risk. (Don hold to add more risk

http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=BS6.SI& t=3m& l=on& z=l& q=l& p=b%2Ce20%2Ce50& a=m26-12-9& c=

teeth53 thot: 1  year?. Bearish mode  - yr on yer, it peak   > 2.00 (Jan-11),   lowest < 0.50 is still a possibility. till cloud is clearer, now very cloudy.

http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=BS6.SI& t=2y& l=on& z=l& q=l& p=b%2Ce20%2Ce50%2Ce200& a=m26-12-9& c

For Eg oni: STXOSV as  compatible stock  (not a reference), on offer, initially strong support by BBs - @1.33 and now, last done at 1.04, down -0.04 with a vol-11,715,000 million shr changed hands today Sept 28.

My personnal opinion is once their (BBs)  set TP is reach - is pump and dump strategy. It the same, it goes to each and every stocks, including YZJ.

Trade summary for Sept 28 (Wed)

Last Trades Volume Bid Volume Mid Ask Volume
0.940 1 3,000 0 3,000 0
0.945 104 594,000 579,000 1,000 14,000
0.950 382 3,777,000 1,787,000 31,000 1,959,000
0.955 610 4,548,000 2,701,000 0 1,847,000
0.960 145 1,133,000 322,000 0 811,000
0.965 475 4,445,000 2,455,000 0 1,990,000
0.970 76 498,000 115,000 68,000 315,000
0.975 83 678,000 624,000 0 54,000
0.980 29 574,000 0 0 574,000
TOTAL 1,905 16,250,000 8,583,000 103,000 7,564,000


Yangzijiang CPF Op-0.975 Cls-0.960 -0.015 -1.5% Vol-16,250,000 323,000 0.955 0.960 2,123,000 Hi-0.980 Lo-0.940


On YZJ,  my more realistic view, setting a goal 4.x or at about 0.80cents (Short term trading is bearish and volatile),  the  up trench is equally very tedious tasks  to  up held for  mid term (1-2 years)  at 6.0x  or at $1.20

For one year, watch U.S. President then -  The United States presidential election of 2012 is the next presidential election to be held on Tuesday, November 6, 2012 and will be the 57th quadrennial U.S. presidential election.

My expection on Euro debt woes (Short to mid term)  is the can of worm will still be kick further down the road. but with Germany on d driver seat, thing can get better - but not without pain for Greek, (and for PIIGS)  no pain , no gain.

http://www.presidentialelection.com/

Above is only sharing my personnal own thot, pls do ur own analysis. No risk, no pain, no gain. hope U gether alot more info from others.


domlim84      ( Date: 26-Sep-2011 14:26) Posted:



hi teeth53,

what is your personal price expectation in the short term (1 month) and medium term (1 year)? 

 

 
marubozu1688
    28-Sep-2011 16:35  
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Sorry guys, although YZJ is under value now but my view is still bearish on this stock base on TA and macro-economy.

http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-stocks/yangzijiang/yangzijiang-prepare-to-free-fall-again/
 
 
jonasljk
    28-Sep-2011 11:25  
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My analysis presents accumulation, high chance of a short term rebound in this week.

  Doubled my holdings @ 0.965

Cut Loss @ 0.935
 
 
domlim84
    26-Sep-2011 14:26  
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hi teeth53,

what is your personal price expectation in the short term (1 month) and medium term (1 year)? 
 
 
jonasljk
    26-Sep-2011 10:43  
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mistake in this counter, affected by too many externalities. cut half at 0.985. take back 1/3 of my profits on this counter  Smiley

jonasljk      ( Date: 16-Sep-2011 17:02) Posted:

yes i am. have to wait till next week for a clearer picture. right now, based on my analysis, still probable for a rally. cut loss @ 0.985.

Sgshares      ( Date: 16-Sep-2011 16:59) Posted:

Still holding?


 
 
teeth53
    26-Sep-2011 10:36  
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“We apply a forward P/E of 8x on 2011F EPS of 20c, arriving at a  FV of $1.600  for a 12-month target. YZJ has a good chance of doubling (and then more) in the medium term. Once we include the 6% dividends annually, the 3-year compounded return is 30+%.

Offering high quality at lowest prices in every sense, YZJ is a rose among the thorns.BUY.”

teeth53 thot: Be more realistic in setting a goal 4.x or at about 0.80cents, over mid term at 6.0x or at $1.20.

All due to Angmo credit agency  in down grading, as all of us can see - Euro and U.S. is sh**hting (liao sai) 
 

 
bsiong
    26-Sep-2011 10:12  
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FYI



- by  AmFraser Securities Pte Ltd

  We initiate coverage on Yangzijiang Shipbuilding (Holdings) Ltd. (YZJ) with a  BUY  and a fair value of  $1.600.  We believe that YZJ reached a significant milestone when it won the Seaspan order over South Korean yards—while bidding 5% higher. This fundamental shift in the competitive landscape has yet to be priced in. In our opinion, the stock price has already taken into consideration the weak demand expectations and general fears about S-chip corporate governance. Put bluntly, not every S-chip is a bad egg. Over time, these fears should recede and allow for revaluation.  BUY.


INVESTMENT MERITS 

·  Fundamental shift in competitive landscape:  YZJ is the only Chinese yard to win contracts for 10,000TEU vessels over South Korean builders, and did so bidding at a 5% premium 
·  High quality at lowest costs:  YZJ’s gross margin is 22% versus the industry average of 15%, an extremely strong advantage 
·  Strong order book provides earnings visibility up to 2014:  Including the US$2.6b worth of options and LOI, YZJ can maintain its record profits up till at least 2014 
·  Held-to-maturity assets protect purchasing power of YZJ‟ s cash and increases dividends:  With inflation at 6% and deposit rates at 3.5%, YZJ needs to invest its cash. Investment returns also increase dividends by 8-10% by our calculations 
·  Clear dividend policy, attractive yield:  Unlike many other companies, YZJ has a black-and-white dividend policy to pay at least 20% of profits. It has outdone itself by paying 30% in recent years. We forecast increased dividends to 6.0c—a good 6% yield 

KEY RISKS 

·  Weakness in shipping markets:  New orders have slowed, but not stopped. We see a refocus towards containerships over bulkers, which raises execution risks especially at the 10,000TEU+ range 
·  Normalizing gross margins to plateau near-term profits:  With fewer high-margin pre-crisis orders, combined with high input-price inflation, gross margins should fall to normal levels. We foresee a flat earnings outlook, but at the record highs 
·  HTM assets at risk in hard-landing scenario:  Though strongly covered by collateral, a hard-landing scenario in China may delay value recovery. We do not see large losses even should this happen 

We apply a forward P/E of 8x on 2011F EPS of 20c, arriving at a  FV of $1.600  for a 12-month target. YZJ has a good chance of doubling (and then more) in the medium term. Once we include the 6% dividends annually, the 3-year compounded return is 30+%. Offering high quality at lowest prices in every sense, YZJ is a rose among the thorns.BUY. 



Yue Jer LEE
Research Analyst

AmFraser Securities Pte Ltd
4 Shenton Way #12-01 SGX Centre 2 S068807


 

 
 
 
Sgshares
    16-Sep-2011 17:03  
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ok.. good luck... i chose to close all. cheers
 
 
jonasljk
    16-Sep-2011 17:02  
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yes i am. have to wait till next week for a clearer picture. right now, based on my analysis, still probable for a rally. cut loss @ 0.985.

Sgshares      ( Date: 16-Sep-2011 16:59) Posted:

Still holding?

jonasljk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2011 16:21) Posted:

doubling my holdings in this counter soon  Smiley


 
 
Sgshares
    16-Sep-2011 16:59  
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Still holding?

jonasljk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2011 16:21) Posted:

doubling my holdings in this counter soon  Smiley

 
 
Sgshares
    16-Sep-2011 14:22  
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Covered @ $1.03...done

Sgshares      ( Date: 16-Sep-2011 10:21) Posted:

Shorted cosco $1.04...wish me luck

 
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