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yes sifu, understand. stock goes in zig zagsss. have to be careful
iPunter ( Date: 04-Oct-2011 10:53) Posted:
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Stocks take time to fall, they will not fall quickly...
divined ( Date: 04-Oct-2011 10:49) Posted:
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2.35 broke, and $1.8 incoming
Isolator ( Date: 04-Oct-2011 10:12) Posted:
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Say good bye to CPL.....
2.35..... break.... $2 to come very soon.... lol
If shorted, one should let the profits run and run...
of course it takes time...
Gaecia ( Date: 04-Oct-2011 09:47) Posted:
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You shorted this am?
eplepl ( Date: 04-Oct-2011 09:45) Posted:
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What is ur target to cover some for short rebound if there are rebound in sight ?
Isolator ( Date: 03-Oct-2011 14:17) Posted:
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Never buy CPL unless you are covering your shorts for profit.... 2.40 is the support.... it will be breaking below 2.35 as confirmation to go below $2 this year end....
maybe shorting it again ......
i think got to ask him when a u turn might appear.....
He is best at cover and profit. maybe he did the magic for noble already.....
hesperus ( Date: 03-Oct-2011 11:11) Posted:
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Reading Isolator's comments make me demoralised and dun dare buy now... even though its NAV is $3.21... :(
$2 here it comes...... Gd luck for those still holding property asset for investment.... Rental yeild will start to drop next year....
About half of the new debts accumulated in the past year by Chinese developers are trust loans, a Credit Suisse report said Friday.
The Chinese developers include Agile Property Holdings Ltd (3383.HK), Guangzhou R& F Properties Co Ltd (2777.HK), KWG Property Holding Limited (1813.HK) and Poly Real Estate Group Co Ltd. (0119.HK).
The comparison between new trust financing and developers' new loans provides a more appropriate way to evaluate the impact to their financing ability in the future, according to Credit Suisse.
New trust loans totaled 20.8 billion yuan in the first half, compared with 21.1 billion yuan of lending of developers from banks.
Potential risks
Developers will find it hard to finance their projects in the future if the government continues to restrict such financing channels as trusts, via which many of the developers tended to assume they could be financed when doing operating budget.
Meanwhile, housing prices and sales would plunge much faster than expected, pushing up the defaulting risks in the overall real estate sector, Credit Suisse said.
Therefore, the rating agency maintained its underweight rating on Chinese real estate stocks.
Developers crunched on concerns of tightened access to loans
Greentown China Holdings Ltd. (3900) plunged in Hong Kong trading Thursday by 16 percent to a two-year low, following a Reuter report that the banking regulator ordered trust companies to report dealings with the developer and weighting down shares of the overall real estate sector.
Greentown had as much as 35 billion yuan of loans as of June 30, of which roughly 40 percent, or 13.5 billion yuan was bank lending with a maturity of one year, and loans from other channels—5 billion yuan from trusts.
Greentown's gearing, or its debt relative to equity, is the highest among Chinese developers, according to Credit Suisse estimate. " I think what the regulator is doing is to use Greentown as an example to check on the risks of the whole industry," said Jinsong Du, a Hong Kong-based property analyst for Credit Suisse.
An official response from Greentown yesterday claimed that the company had not recovered any note from the regulator while its finance condition remains strong and stable.
It was only because that the company's debt ratio was relatively higher, making it a little money-crunched, Reuters quoted the company's CEO Shou Bonian as reporting.
Greentown would sell more houses and buy less land in the further, in order to cut the ratio within 100 percent, which would take two to three years, Shou was quoted as saying.
Isolator ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 15:55) Posted:
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I never bother about CPL.... It is running with profit..... If not today, it will be next week.... No worry... lol
Gaecia ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 15:47) Posted:
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Stocks don't move down in a day (drop like sheet)...
They drop (or rise) in stages over a period of time...
Gaecia ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 15:47) Posted:
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Have you fallen asleep on this capland? They are supporting it the entire day...
Isolator ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 12:10) Posted:
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Let's see whether it can get to 2.40 today.... Shd be easy.... lol
Free fall mean no support....come come CPL... below $2..... lol
Where is ah fool and gangs? Long time no chat already.... lol
free fall ? unlikely,,, seems more like downs and ups and downs and ups...
if free fall, like that no need to play anymore, just watch the floor...LOL.
Holding well? it will be free fall.... lol
New123 ( Date: 30-Sep-2011 10:47) Posted:
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