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bladez87
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07-Nov-2010 17:40     
 
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 Alert Admin 		if after you break even, you wack a double or half, you still win what. haha


firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:49) Posted:

Casino is damn happy if u use this method. Go and calculate.

Let say u start with $10 then $20 then $40.

Ultimately when u win, u only win $10

There are better methods than this.



bladez87      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:38) Posted:

everyone knows of this method, but why nobody go use
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firewood
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07-Nov-2010 17:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Maybe due to the rise of commodities' prices

ShareWithMe      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:

Strangely , now Indoagri has rebounded back to its sky high of $2.7x even though Q3 earnings ain't good

 



firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:59) Posted:



Indofood Agri-Resources downgraded to 'hold' by UOB Kay Hian

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UOB KayHian Research

Wednesday, 03 November 2010 11:45

UOB Kay Hian in a Nov 1 research report says:

"Indofood Agri Resources’ (IFAR) core net profit declined 20% y-o-y to Rp774 billion in 9M10. "This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume. "We lower our earnings forecasts by 18.5% to Rp1,109 billion for 2010 and by 13.0% to Rp1,478 billion for 2011 to factor in lower cooking oil price assumption as well as sales volume due to stiff competition in the domestic cooking oil market. Fair price of $2.65 as we lowered our PE valuation to 13x 2012F PE. DOWNGRADE TO HOLD."

 

Forex is only one of the 3 reasons. Will GAR be affected by all 3 too?


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iknownothing
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07-Nov-2010 17:21     
 
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BT, check with you. when u play overseas market like US and HK.

u open account with bank on different currency or do you keep your currencyy with the securities firm?

or you jus convert back to sgd after each trade that you do?
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ShareWithMe
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07-Nov-2010 17:18     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Anyway just stick to the beow game plan and all will huat !!

ShareWithMe      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 10:12) Posted:

That's cool !  I like that !



BullishTempo      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 10:07) Posted:



Well a game plan could go as follows :

Monday morning buy some Noble.

Wednesday morning, sell Noble, put profits back to GAR

Thursday after lunch break sell GAR

Put profits back to GenSp (Maybe buy some Olam, reporting on same day as GenSp)

Wait for GenSp announcement. 
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07-Nov-2010 17:15     
 
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Strangely , now Indoagri has rebounded back to its sky high of $2.7x even though Q3 earnings ain't good

 



firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:59) Posted:



Indofood Agri-Resources downgraded to 'hold' by UOB Kay Hian

Tags: Indofood Agri Resources |

UOB KayHian Research

Wednesday, 03 November 2010 11:45

UOB Kay Hian in a Nov 1 research report says:

"Indofood Agri Resources’ (IFAR) core net profit declined 20% y-o-y to Rp774 billion in 9M10. "This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume. "We lower our earnings forecasts by 18.5% to Rp1,109 billion for 2010 and by 13.0% to Rp1,478 billion for 2011 to factor in lower cooking oil price assumption as well as sales volume due to stiff competition in the domestic cooking oil market. Fair price of $2.65 as we lowered our PE valuation to 13x 2012F PE. DOWNGRADE TO HOLD."

 

Forex is only one of the 3 reasons. Will GAR be affected by all 3 too?

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firewood
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07-Nov-2010 16:59     
 
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Indofood Agri-Resources downgraded to 'hold' by UOB Kay Hian

Tags: Indofood Agri Resources |

UOB KayHian Research

Wednesday, 03 November 2010 11:45

UOB Kay Hian in a Nov 1 research report says:

"Indofood Agri Resources’ (IFAR) core net profit declined 20% y-o-y to Rp774 billion in 9M10. "This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume. "We lower our earnings forecasts by 18.5% to Rp1,109 billion for 2010 and by 13.0% to Rp1,478 billion for 2011 to factor in lower cooking oil price assumption as well as sales volume due to stiff competition in the domestic cooking oil market. Fair price of $2.65 as we lowered our PE valuation to 13x 2012F PE. DOWNGRADE TO HOLD."

 

Forex is only one of the 3 reasons. Will GAR be affected by all 3 too?
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firewood
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07-Nov-2010 16:49     
 
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Casino is damn happy if u use this method. Go and calculate.

Let say u start with $10 then $20 then $40.

Ultimately when u win, u only win $10

There are better methods than this.



bladez87      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:38) Posted:

everyone knows of this method, but why nobody go use


cannotfind      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:28) Posted:

Not true la. If u have capital and buy big or small and increment it by 100 percent if u lose, you will sure win.
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iPunter
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07-Nov-2010 16:45     
 
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I am sure many are doing it.

   But the problem is,

      the moment the break-even point is reached,

         people usually still go on betting big (to make money).

            Thus repeating the cycle again.. Smiley
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bladez87
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07-Nov-2010 16:38     
 
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 Alert Admin 		everyone knows of this method, but why nobody go use


cannotfind      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:28) Posted:

Not true la. If u have capital and buy big or small and increment it by 100 percent if u lose, you will sure win.

iPunter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:13) Posted:



Stock market is just like a casino...

   But it is better than a casino

      because it can be 'analysed'.

          Whereas in a casino,

              one simply whacks and hope for a win... Smiley


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iPunter
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07-Nov-2010 16:34     
 
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I do agree with you... 

   As long keeps on doubling up,

      one will inevitably win back what one has lost... Smiley
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07-Nov-2010 16:28     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Not true la. If u have capital and buy big or small and increment it by 100 percent if u lose, you will sure win.

iPunter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 16:13) Posted:



Stock market is just like a casino...

   But it is better than a casino

      because it can be 'analysed'.

          Whereas in a casino,

              one simply whacks and hope for a win... Smiley

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iPunter
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07-Nov-2010 16:13     
 
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Stock market is just like a casino...

   But it is better than a casino

      because it can be 'analysed'.

          Whereas in a casino,

              one simply whacks and hope for a win... Smiley
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firewood
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07-Nov-2010 15:53     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Haha, ya i heard one indian guy came to work for 2 yrs and lose all his saving in RWS

cannotfind      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 15:49) Posted:

All, please read the news!!! Even the low wage workers are gambling all the $$$$ in RWS!!!!! There are so many foreign workers in SG, so sikit sikit lama menjadi bukit!!!!! Sure a lot sign for RWS. Read the news, it says RWS and not LVS.

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cannotfind
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07-Nov-2010 15:49     
 
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 Alert Admin 		All, please read the news!!! Even the low wage workers are gambling all the $$$$ in RWS!!!!! There are so many foreign workers in SG, so sikit sikit lama menjadi bukit!!!!! Sure a lot sign for RWS. Read the news, it says RWS and not LVS.
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iknownothing
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07-Nov-2010 14:06     
 
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haha good posting..sometimes your post need to squeeze alittle brain juice..to interpret correctly..

Cheers!



iPunter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:15) Posted:



Even with the best technical analysis in the world,


    a stock can always fall after one has bought it.

        Thus, no matter whether it is TA,

           or FA, or whatever super analysis,

               it is only a bet at best..

                 (By the way, I was looking for a flag, but couldn't find it). Smiley
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iPunter
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07-Nov-2010 13:13     
 
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Because they always want to make more... Smiley

 
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07-Nov-2010 13:04     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Why hang so tight? Don't sell how to earn money??

iPunter      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:48) Posted:

Unfortunately, many are married to their stocks...

     And hang on tight, even when they fall... Smiley



BullishTempo      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:43) Posted:

Bet on the wrong spouse can cut loss?

Smiley 
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firewood
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07-Nov-2010 12:50     
 
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BullishTempo      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:43) Posted:

Bet on the wrong spouse can cut loss?

Smiley 



firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:37) Posted:

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!


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iPunter
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Unfortunately, many are married to their stocks...

     And hang on tight, even when they fall... Smiley



BullishTempo      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:43) Posted:

Bet on the wrong spouse can cut loss?

Smiley 



firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:37) Posted:

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!


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BullishTempo
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Bet on the wrong spouse can cut loss?

Smiley 



firewood      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:37) Posted:

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

BullishTempo      ( Date: 07-Nov-2010 12:35) Posted:

Your husband or wife is also a bet 
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