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tanglinboy
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26-Nov-2008 15:23
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What is ironic to me was that Citibank actually had to put an advertisement on newspaper saying that they are ok! | ||||||||
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25-Nov-2008 10:27
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hmm...as a citi customer...i am constant blasted with msg from their CITI-SG CEO...here the latest: November 24, 2008 To: Customers of Citibank Singapore Limited Dear Customer, I am writing to update you on the latest developments taking place in the U.S. to further strengthen Citi's capital ratios, reduce risk and increase liquidity. As of this afternoon, the U.S. Government and Citi reached an agreement to address the speculation and rumors about Citi's financial health, which led to recent stock market valuations, in spite of Citi's strong balance sheet and franchise fundamentals. As a result of the agreement with the U.S. Treasury, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC), Citi significantly strengthens its key capital ratios by generating approximately US$40 billion of capital benefits. In addition, Citi's balance sheet risk has been reduced by the guarantee of over US$300 billion in assets by the U.S. Government. Citi's Tier 1 capital ratio for the third quarter ended September 30, 2008, on a pro forma basis, for the October TARP capital injection and the new capital generated by today's announcement, subject to the Federal Reserve Board's approval, is expected to be approximately 14.8%. Today's announcement brings even greater clarity to our overall financial standing and ability to deliver the best service to our customers. It will also provide reassurance to our customers with respect to the strength of Citi's global franchise. Throughout these difficult markets, Citibank Singapore Ltd and Citibank N.A, Singapore Branch have maintained a stable operating income, unparalleled access to funding, extraordinary levels of liquidity and the best talent in the business. Our business is strong and our support for our customers has been unwavering. This announcement endorses our continued commitment to our customers in Singapore, as we have been doing since 1902. We look forward to serving you in future and would like to thank you for your continued patronage. |
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25-Nov-2008 09:40
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Just extracted this from CNBC. GIC investment in Citibank in Jan 2008 was USD 6.88B at about USD 29 per share. Investment is in convertible preference shares with a quarterly coupon payout rate of 7% pa.....Conversion to ordinary share is at USD 31.43. Last night Citibank shares closed at USD 5.95. Today, our GIC is looking at a paper loss of USD5.5B...and no matter how you look at it, the conversion is not viable anytime soon. Also bear in mind, whlst pref sh have priority (preference) over ordinary shares for div, the 7% div is not a guarantee.....if citi keeps reporting losses, it may not have the cash to pay any div to shareholders.....including pref shares.....so the 7% yield may not by applicable. Now, I wonder if Tony Tan still feels the same as when he made the statement in Jan 08.
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jackjames
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24-Nov-2008 17:23
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my wife in architect firm, this year bonus 5.4 months... but we don't buy BMWcar, but we apply BMW.rules... (bus, MRT and walk)... LOL....
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teeth53
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24-Nov-2008 16:11
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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Ya...not heng, but lucky to be alive, their one n oni reason..long, long term investment, i oso see Ms Ho happy lehh, cut pay oni, not cut workers, at least still got some job left for those that has made huge multi billion of losses, unlike DBS kena oni cut oldman 1st, Tama sick so far did not cut oldman
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goondoo
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24-Nov-2008 16:01
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Temasek and GIC is not heng. Citigroup though rescued, will probably not make significant profit for next 5 to 10 yr, as US govt takes losses after 40b. US Govt guarantees up to US$300b for bad assets, but Citigroup has US$1 trillion off balance sheet items. Citigroup will be range bound between US$3 to US$10 for the next 5 to 10 yr, and with GIC and temasek vested interest rumoured to be around US$30, even after 5 to 10 yr, they will have paper loss of more than 50%. My opinion is that Citigroup will not reach US$30 in our lifetimes (next 30 to 40 yrs or so). |
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teeth53
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24-Nov-2008 15:47
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Now GIC very HENG ahhh....Ya. CITI kena rescue for 20Bil n another 300Bil, imagine less then US$5/- then come the rescue package. How much billion do we top up into their credit a/c...? think lahh..people's oni came in after 5 US dollars, Y sooo...kiaso
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24-Nov-2008 15:33
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Citi dodges bulletGovernment will guarantee losses on more than $300 billion in troubled assets and make a fresh $20 billion injection. NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The U.S. federal government on Sunday announced a massive rescue package for Citigroup - the latest move to steady the banking giant, whose shares have plunged in the past week. The plan has two key features: First, the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) will backstop some losses against more than $300 billion in troubled assets. Second, the Treasury will make a fresh $20 billion investment in the bank. The government has already injected $25 billion into Citigroup as part of the $700 billion bailout passed by Congress in October. In return for the latest intervention, the government will receive an additional batch of preferred shares - $20 billion for its direct investment and $7 billion as compensation for the loan guarantees. Citigroup will pay an 8% dividend rate on those shares. In addition, the government will get warrants, or the right to purchase $2.7 billion worth Citigroup shares in the future. The government will impose restrictions as well. Citigroup will be prohibited from paying out a dividend of more than a penny per share for the next three years and will face limits on executive compensation. Plus, Citigroup will be expected to adjust mortgages for troubled borrowers, using procedures similar to those the FDIC implemented at IndyMac, which it took over last summer. "With these transactions, the U.S. government is taking the actions necessary to strengthen the financial system and protect U.S. taxpayers and the U.S. economy," Treasury, Federal Reserve and the FDIC said in a joint statement. Under the terms of the Citigroup rescue package, the bank would be on the hook for the first $29 billion in losses on the covered assets, which includes mostly loans backed by residential and commercial mortgages. It would cover 10% of losses above that amount, with the government shouldering the rest. Despite the massive rescue effort, regulators did not push for a management change at Citigroup. In recent days, there had been speculation that Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit could step down. There had also been talk that the company was considering replacing Chairman Sir Win Bischoff, although the company denied such reports. Citigroup has been one of the hardest hit financial firms since the mortgage market first started to unravel in the fall of 2007. Over the past four quarters, the company has recorded close to $21 billion in losses. Investors seemed encouraged by news of the Sunday night rescue, with futures for U.S. markets pointing to a higher open Monday. A scary week
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner, president of the New York Fed, were both involved in the weekend talks over Citigroup's fate, according to government officials. Geithner is expected to be nominated to be Treasury Secretary by President-elect Barack Obama. There had been concerns that letting another major financial institution fail would have disastrous consequences for both the U.S. economy as well as the global financial system. The bank had more than $2 trillion in assets as of the end of the third quarter and has operations in more than 100 countries. Last week, fears about Citigroup's fate rattled equity markets around the globe and sent shares of the 196-year-old firm plummeting to levels not seen in over a decade. Citigroup shares lost close to two-thirds of their value for the week, even as the company announced plans to layoff more than 50,000 workers and as its largest individual shareholder upped his stake. By the close of trading on Friday, Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) shares had dipped below $4 a share, and were down 87% for the year. The most recent slide in Citigroup stock comes on the heels of news earlier this month that the Treasury Department was abandoning its initial rescue plan to buy troubled assets from banks - Citigroup had been seen as a major beneficiary of that strategy. Instead, as part of the $700 billion bailout package that was signed into law in early October, Treasury has focused on making direct investments in banks. In exchange for equity stakes, the agency has injected $25 billion into Citigroup and an additional $100 billion into eight other major U.S. financial institutions. Despite the recent events, many industry experts had stressed that Citigroup is relatively healthy. Two veteran banking analysts - Mike Mayo of Deutsche Bank and Ladenburg Thalman's Richard Bove - both advised clients last week that Citigroup could survive substantial loan losses. |
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teeth53
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24-Nov-2008 15:21
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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may this serve as reminder....Maybe this will do to give them another reminder, in case all is all forgotten after pocketing a few millon of Sing $.
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freeme
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24-Nov-2008 14:44
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So will citi's share head up? | ||||||||
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teeth53
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24-Nov-2008 14:13
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CITIgroup cannot die, but limping oni....Got some hope liao. GIC took a road less risking to venture aborad, so less to losses.....so far unlike Tama sick....no risk no gain No joke... he said this before on January 15th, 2008 . GIC INVESTS USD 6.88 BILLION IN CITIGROUP Singapore, 15 January 2008 The Government of Singapore Investment Corporation (GIC) has agreed to participate in Citigroup’s private offering of convertible preferred securities through an investment of USD 6.88 billion. Including GIC’s current holdings of 0.3%, the investment, if converted to shares, will bring GIC’s holdings of Citigroup shares to about 4% of the expanded capital base. Commenting on the investment, Dr Tony Tan Keng Yam, GIC’s Deputy Chairman and Executive Director said, “GIC is a financial investor seeking commercial returns on a long-term basis. Citigroup is an excellent addition to GIC’s portfolio as it is one of the largest banks in the world with an attractive global franchise. We believe that the investment in Citigroup will meet our long-term investment objective in terms of risk and return.” Dr Tan added, “GIC has confidence in Citigroup’s Board of Directors headed by Sir Winfried Bischoff, and the new management team led by Mr Vikram Pandit. We believe that decisive action has been taken to further strengthen the balance sheet and profitability of the bank. Furthermore, the investment that GIC has made is through convertible preferred securities, which gives appropriate downside protection.” GIC is a financial investor and will not be taking a seat on Citigroup’s Board. Convertible Preferred Securities Convertible preferred securities enjoy a fixed rate of coupon payment until they are converted to shares. Unlike common stocks or mandatory convertible securities, their downside risk is more limited. GIC’s recent announced investment in UBS involves mandatory convertible securities. It cannot be directly compared with the Citigroup investment. Please refer to the attachment for the terms of the securities in the Citigroup investment. http://www.gic.com.sg/newsroom_newreleases_150108%20-%20GIC%20invests%20USD%206.88bn%20in%20Citigroup.htm |
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24-Nov-2008 14:05
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U.S. agrees to bail out CitigroupSAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government agreed Sunday night to rescue Citigroup Inc. with a huge bailout plan that includes a $20 billion capital infusion, guarantees for up to $306 billion of Citi's troubled assets - and control of executive bonuses.
The agreement with beleaguered
Citigroup, Inc , whose stock had dropped more than 60% in the past week to a 16-year low, and which had lost $260 billion of its $160 billion market capitalization in the past year, came after intense weekend negotiations with the Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., according to media reports. These are the key provisions of the bailout:
Citigroup previously agreed to issue the government preferred shares in return for the $25 billion the bank received as one of the first nine companies to get capital infusions.
Citi is one of the world's best-known financial institutions, with more than 200 million customers in 106 countries.
The agreement marks a new phase in government efforts to stabilize U.S. banks and securities firms, the Journal reported.
After injecting nearly $300 billion of capital into financial institutions, federal officials now appear to be willing to absorb bad assets, on a targeted basis, from specific institutions, according to the Journal's report.
In addition to $2 trillion in assets it has on its balance sheet, Citi has another $1.23 trillion in entities that aren't reflected there, according to reports. Some of those assets are tied to mortgages, and investors have worried they could cause heavy losses if they are brought back on the company's books, the Journal said.
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Sporeguy
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23-Nov-2008 17:28
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Jackjames, ha, you also know about the BMW story. The year (?) that spore tech (which co ?) made a lot of money, many of the engineers got 6 to 12 months bonus. So, many of them bought BMW. Even the clerks got 3 months bonus. Civil servants only got 1 month. The following year or 2, the comp lost money and the head just have to change a bigger comp without getting the blame loh. | ||||||||
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AK_Francis
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23-Nov-2008 17:06
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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Yah,just compare 2.9 b rescue plan n 16 b on single invest on one bank? Really, we need transparancy, though it is not a must on certain coy. | ||||||||
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tchoonw
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23-Nov-2008 16:22
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they only tell u how good they are but not how screw up they are...!
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stupidfool
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23-Nov-2008 16:19
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Sometimes i feel that we ordinary citizens are not told alot of things by the garmen. | ||||||||
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tchoonw
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23-Nov-2008 16:02
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if citibank were to do an equity restructuring(consolidate 1000 shares into 1 shares) and raise capitals thru' right issue, gic investment confirm down the drain! this is retribution man! |
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dcang84
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22-Nov-2008 22:48
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They are right now when they discovered citibank's stock price plummet to less than 5 bucks and still falling. ABC learning went belly up recently,BOA is now US$13++and UBS is making a habit of spilling red ink. I read a Yahoo article this morning on the pay cut by senior management. When u scroll further down, u will be able to see the part that says 'plenty of opportunities-distressed assets'. It sent shivers down my spine as it begs the question-'Where are they gonna get the MONEY?'
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teeth53
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22-Nov-2008 19:06
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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I mean..from d same boat people's, can't do to coordinate their action properly (Reason maybe given as commerical decision and nothing to do with govment), somemore say we R 1st class. Top up retiree A/C with 60k from those investment and i said thank Qs, No need so much headache for the next generation of ministers.....I mean those grandson when they take over from grandfather...Ya. :)) I do understand them as leader they lead, we follow...Ya. |
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teeth53
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22-Nov-2008 18:51
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Why so...even DBS make money, they do retrenching, don't even say cut in their pay..Ya. Due to this...http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20081121/tap-temasek-paycut-c3bb44c.html Temasek owns stakes in global banks such as Standard Chartered <STAN.L>, Barclays <BARC.L>, Merrill Lynch <MER.N>, Bank of China <601988.SS> and India's ICICI Bank <ICBK.BO>, the stocks of which have all fallen as the credit crisis unfolded, some of them very sharply. Here we Lost in many Billion...NO retrench..ONI pay cut..C NO LOGIC lehh...my toe 1 2 laugh
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