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26-Oct-2009 22:40 GLD USD   /   Gold going up this year?       Go to Message
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The whole inflation versus deflation debate is actually much less important to me now that I understand the role of Gold. Gold protects against financial and fiat currency instability and a loss of confidence in "the powers that be." It is Gold's time to shine as an asset class during this Kondratieff Winter, whether the Dollar does a Prechter deflationary death dance higher first or a straight Sinclair inflationary flop down to the 52 U.S. Dollar Index level (from the 75 close on Friday). People who only see "Dollar Up, Gold Down" and vice versa are missing the bigger picture. All global fiat currencies are sinking together, just at different rates. It is simply Gold's turn as an asset class. Cycles. Greed. Fear. Gold will be a lousy investment again in 5-10 years, but it's WAY TOO EARLY in the cycle to be worried about "the" top in Gold. Wake me when we get to $1500/oz. and I'll be happy to revisit the issue (with another bullish commentary about how the next stop is $2,000).

So, whether its deflation or inflation or both, Gold is going higher. This a confidence issue and a secular cyclical phenomenon. "Gold good, stocks bad" is a trend set to continue.

Having said this, I still enjoy the inflation versus deflation debate. From a practical standpoint, as Martin Armstrong has said (see below), big money that moves currency markets can flow almost anywhere in the world to find a safe haven. In the early 1930s, capital flowed into the United States once the major economies like Britain and Switzerland abandoned the Gold standard, causing a crisis in confidence in these previously "good as Gold" currencies. This global flow of capital into the U.S. Dollar caused our Dollar to rise in relative value, aggravating the natural state of deflation we were experiencing at the time.

Naturally, Europeans sought the safety of a foreign currency backed by Gold once their own currencies were aggressively devalued by discontinuing their respective Gold pegs. In fact, if the United States stuck to its guns, it probably would have lost all its Gold to the hoards of paper note-bearing European souls looking for real money. American citizens followed suit and traded their notes for Gold (benefit of a true Gold standard: no commissions or premiums!) - these evil Gold hoarders of course had to be stopped and/or punished. Gold was thus confiscated from American citizens (with safety deposit boxes at times watched by officials to prevent clandestine Gold ownership) and the American Gold standard was finally weakened to help break the cycle of Gold loss and deflation. An overnight 69% currency devaluation ($20.67/oz. to $35/oz.) and the criminalization of private Gold ownership in the United States (ending a "true" Gold standard period in this country) was all it took. As destructive as they were to confidence and people's savings, these Roosevelt mandates helped fuel a weak reflationary cyclical general stock bull market (1933-1937 was not a weak cyclical bull market for Gold miners, by the way).

Will we repeat a 1930s deflationary "collapse" scenario? Will we have a major currency event? Though deflationary forces are strong due to real estate and banking/credit/debt fiascos, confidence in the Dollar is low. The world's greatest debtor nation has not inspired much confidence in global market participants seeking a safe haven. And I am not talking about bear market currency rallies here, I am talking about the dominant long-term trend.

Will Bernanke and his U.S. Treasury lackeys finally destroy the last shred of confidence in Uncle Buck with their idiocracy? Will capital flow into or out of the United States when the next wave of the global crisis occurs? Again, not talking about dead cat bounces here, talking about the dominant long-term trend. Global capital flows have more control over the fate of the Dollar (and every international currency) than Ber-spank-me, but Benny's actions can certainly cause some of our creditors to figure out sooner that it may be better to walk away and simply write off their bad debts. Whether you've chosen sides on the inflation/deflation debate or not, this debate does allow you to recognize the nasty war of fundamental forces that is sure to cause further economic chaos in any scenario.

Me, I see further capital flight away from many financial casinos/markets around the world coming. I see a further loss of confidence in bankstas, Wall Street hustlers and paper magic notes designed to explode. I think some of this global money will be seeking a safe haven in Gold. I am not talking massive amounts of money, as Gold is a small market. I am talking about a few more "elephant" investors (i.e. governments, large private institutional funds) around the world deciding to up their physical Gold insurance from 1% to 5% of their portfolio. That's all it would take to start/continue a big move higher in the Gold price from current levels.

Gold is safe, it is reliable, it requires no government assurances or bail-outs to stay in business, it does well when there is little confidence in the system and it is not debt-based. These are all things you want during a contractionary secular bear market in general stocks and real estate. Sure, governments can try to further tax or even confiscate Gold (again), but the government historically gets too tyrannical in trying to tax or confiscate all kinds of personal property at this stage of the economic cycle (including stocks and real estate). This is hardly a unique problem for those who take the plunge with Gold, despite paperbug concerns. At least Gold can be held quietly "off-ledger" until more rational minds prevail (this is not as easy with stocks and real estate).

In fact, if the government does "ban" Gold or tax it more excessively than it already does, nothing could be more patriotic than to completely ignore such a decree as a moral act of civil disobedience. By the way, if anyone in officialdom is reading, I sold all my Gold last year and this is just an academic intellectual exercise designed to make sure Americans follow everything their mama guvmint sez by pointing out the insanity of messing with Big Brother, who is all-knowing, all-powerful, and should never be disobeyed. I am a paperbug after all, I swear.

I believe the global paper fiat system is breaking down. I believe people will increasingly trade their paper for Gold regardless of whether we undergo deflation or inflation. After a 20 year bear market from 1980-2000, Gold ain't done after a 4 fold gain. Has everyone forgotten how paper fiat market bubbles and Gold manias work?

I suppose that the economic events of the 1930s or 1970s, both inducing Gold and Gold stock manias, could not possibly happen again. Ever. 40 year intervals (if this is, perhaps, say a normal repetitive cycle) would put us at the 2010s for a new Gold mania, but Gold is dead as an asset class forever. Gold will never again have a serious bull market. Oil can go up 14 fold in 10 years but Gold couldn't possibly go up even 10 fold in the same rough period (which would put us at $2500/ounce). The last bull market in Gold on a fiat paper system took Gold prices up 24 fold in 9 years ($35 to $850). The S&P 500 went up 16 fold from 1980 to 2000. This time, a 4 fold gain over a decade in a hated asset still considered worthless by the mainstream crowd is a bubble mania waiting to pop any second and take the Gold price back to Prechterite levels?! No sale, sorry...

I believe $2,000/oz is a minimum conservative upside target for Gold and it wouldn't shock me to get to $10,000/oz. Until the Dow to Gold ratio gets below 2, I wouldn't even consider that the Gold bull market might be over. We've got a long ways to go. Ignore the short-term noise and the paperbugs. Forget the $25-50 swings. Sit tight and be right.
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25-Oct-2009 09:54 GLD USD   /   Gold going up this year?       Go to Message
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Gold looks great right now. Another day comfortably above $1000/ounce, further establishing this psychological price level as a floor instead of as a ceiling. Once you're into 4 digits, changing the first number in the four digit sequence no longer seems impossible. Currently, we are in a short-term consolidation pattern that looks very healthy.

Here's a 1 year daily chart of the GLD ETF, used instead of the Gold price because it shows volume patterns:



Next stop for Gold is $1100 and there's only psychological resistance at this level (i.e. may not actually stop at $1100 for any length of time). The GDX ETF looks like it is about to head for its all time highs:



The opposite volume pattern is happening in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Volume has fallen off a cliff over the past 6 months as the Dow moves higher while GDX volume has expanded to new impressive highs over this time.

Gold often corrects towards the end of October (a seasonal pattern) as it is doing now. This is healthy and normal. I don't think we'll have to wait more than a week or so for another move higher. If the consolidation lasts longer, that would actually be even more bullish, as this means it is a major correction in this intermediate-term bull trend rather than a minor correction. A major correction that moves sideways without a significant price retracement lower suggests that the upside move that follows it will be extremely strong, so another 2-3 weeks of sideways action would not upset me at all, I just think it's less likely.

Today's commitment of traders report continues to show expanding open interest (i.e. greater number of open contracts), which is bullish. People focusing on the "high" short position don't get it. They should be focusing on the fact that every short needs a long to go with it, so why aren't they calling it a high "long" position? The Gold bears are scared right now, not the bulls. Expanding open interest in the futures market is a healthy sign during a bull run, not a bearish sign.

The institutional investors are starting to herd into Gold and Gold stocks (articles like this are becoming more and more frequent). This is pre-mania type of fundamental news. The big money moves in and the price starts to rise strongly and inexorably for a while. After this occurs for several more months to a few years, retail investors will finally show up in droves and grab the bull by its horns for the final zany rush higher. We are currently a long way away from this point. For now, Gold bulls should just relax, stay the course and enjoy the ride higher.
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24-Oct-2009 23:46 Straits Times Index   /   STI to cross 3000 boosted by long-term investors       Go to Message
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I just watch 2 videos over the weekend..

very thought provoking.. lets u wonder what is the world coming to..

And the rich are taking over the world..

U can go to Google videos to watch them

1. Obama deception

2. The fall of the republic

 
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23-Oct-2009 11:52 Golden Agri-Res   /   GoldenAgr       Go to Message
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i put my money where my mouth is

vested 46.5



ozone2002      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:54) Posted:



if GAR break 46.. enter..

DYODD

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23-Oct-2009 11:49 Others   /   Novena       Go to Message
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21.5 ..can it break the last high..?
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23-Oct-2009 11:08 Midas   /   Midas       Go to Message
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ditto.. stay vested collect on dips

ozone2002      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 13:58) Posted:



China economy is still growing.. they are targeting 8% for the year...

infrastructure spending definitely will be on the cards..

MIDAS poised to benefit..

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23-Oct-2009 11:07 Yanlord Land   /   Lord of China Prop       Go to Message
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GO GO yanlord!! 2.47!!
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23-Oct-2009 09:08 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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heard ezra delivered their FPSO successfully..good news!
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22-Oct-2009 14:54 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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excellent!.. investors are confident in EZRA!

time to accumulate more



will040      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 14:43) Posted:



Ezra’s US$100m 4% convertible bonds draws overwhelming response

Robust demand from global financial institutions and strategic investors leads to issue being

more than 5x oversubscribed

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22-Oct-2009 13:58 Midas   /   Midas       Go to Message
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China economy is still growing.. they are targeting 8% for the year...

infrastructure spending definitely will be on the cards..

MIDAS poised to benefit..
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22-Oct-2009 11:53 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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now 2.07 :)
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22-Oct-2009 10:02 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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dip represents buying opportunity..

ezra is super undervalued..$1 bil contract! eat fat fat.. :)



retsel      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:59) Posted:

Fierce selling to 2.03 leh. Whats happening?

Bintang      ( Date: 22-Oct-2009 09:27) Posted:

Ezra broke new high with large volume yesterday , today it pulls back to the supporting point at $2.05 before going up further


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22-Oct-2009 09:54 Golden Agri-Res   /   GoldenAgr       Go to Message
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if GAR break 46.. enter..

DYODD
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22-Oct-2009 09:20 Yanlord Land   /   Lord of China Prop       Go to Message
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dip today.. opportunity to collect cheap..
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22-Oct-2009 09:04 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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UBS increased their stake in EZRA!!..
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21-Oct-2009 19:41 Ezra   /   Ezra       Go to Message
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i "bao" her for the rest of the year can? keke

chris168      ( Date: 21-Oct-2009 19:38) Posted:

YES!!! The babe of all babes. Even though you leave her and go back to her again, she welcome you with open arms. Such magnanimity! hehehe ...

tonylim      ( Date: 21-Oct-2009 16:05) Posted:

I told you guys that EZRA always spring up surprises.  Ezion will be the nex


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21-Oct-2009 19:38 Straits Times Index   /   STI to cross 3000 boosted by long-term investors       Go to Message
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STI break PYSCHO-lor-gical support again.. ah doi! below 2700

lightning can strike twice meh?

doesn't that tell u something?

Just remember, if everybody's buyin..someone's selling.. u want to be on the smart money side..

bear in mind smart money (20% of the population) makes 80% of the money. Be a contrarian! Don't

follow the herd!

 
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21-Oct-2009 19:33 Midas   /   Midas       Go to Message
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stochastic turnin downwards..

expect correction for those trading short term..
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21-Oct-2009 18:51 Keppel Land   /   Kepland       Go to Message
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finally this "toyota" (i was advocating a buy @ $1+) is showing its BMW status ($3 and above)

:)
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21-Oct-2009 16:41 Yanlord Land   /   Lord of China Prop       Go to Message
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2,43 broken!!! go china property..haha



ozone2002      ( Date: 21-Oct-2009 15:53) Posted:

vested yanlord $2.41 ... in anticipation of it to break the high of 2.43..

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